Hawane Rios – TMT & Maunakea: Common Ground

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May 28, 2015

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Big Island Video News will be featuring the presentations made by the many different speakers slated to talk at the Common Ground series. The…

Big Island Video News will be featuring the presentations made by the many different speakers slated to talk at the Common Ground series. The archive will be available at this location.

PEPEEKEO, Hawaii – The second of four TMT & Maunakea: Common Ground talks was held Wednesday night at the Kulaimano Community Center in Pepe’ekeo. The discussions are organized by the Hilo-Hamakua Community Development Corporation in order to “bring more information to the community that it serves (from north of the singing bridge in Hilo to Waipi`o Valley) so that people can make informed decisions about the TMT.”

Organizers originally enlisted Paul Neves, one of the petitioners opposed to the Thirty Meter Telescope who has been fighting the project in the courts, to offer a Cultural and Historical Perspective on Wednesday. After Neves reportedly backed out, Hawane Rios spoke instead. Rios has played a big role in the Ku Kia’i Mauna movement.

The next Common Ground meeting will be Tuesday June 2 at Laupahoehoe Community Public Charter School Cafeteria.

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5 thoughts on “Hawane Rios – TMT & Maunakea: Common Ground”

  1. Too much “happy language” and new age inspirational woo-woo. Pretty much no substantial statements rooted in strong evidence.

    Pretty much the entire argument here is religiously centered and motivated.

    What is sacred? Who gets to define what sacred means?

    The definitions Ms. Rios attempts here are so vague that they can be too broadly interpreted by anyone who chooses to stretch the brain taffy any way they choose.

    Why should anyone get to designate massive tracts of land as sacred and untouchable for what ultimately amounts to “because I said so?”

    One person once said, “tradition is for man, not man for tradition.”

    If sacred land cannot be used to serve the people then what’s the point?

    Seeing these telescopes as signs of colonial oppression is utterly absurd. A better argument to this point could be made for the crosses that speckle the landscape on every island and the WalMarts that Hawaiians flock to in droves, despite the damage such a retailer does to the local and state economies.

    And the aquifer? No one has yet furnished a peer reviewed study that has unequivocally proven that any of the telescopes have contaminated the water at its potable source. The vast majority of the aquifer’s water doesn’t begin to accumulate until several thousand feet BELOW the summit.

    More energy has been spent on this protest than anything I have ever seen allocated towards Monsanto, towards the numerous golf courses that leak toxins and kill reefs at every location they occupy.

    Ms. Rios says that too few people benefit from this “gentleman science” that she also equates with Monsanto’s GMO agenda (seriously?!? – there is NO connection). Yet it’s obvious that she hasn’t done her homework on what this exact type of technology has contributed. Ironically enough, the very tech she claims to be using to beam her message to the world is directly and indirectly tied to the creation of the technology that made recording and distributing this message possible.

    “Time to bow down.”

    This command to submit to a divine will she claims to be the mouthpiece of is troubling to say the least.

    No conversation? No compromise?

    In the seven years’ process of clearing the path for the TMT there were 20 open meetings. The TMT made multiple concessions.

    The only ones unwilling to compromise in this debate have been the protestors. Their demand? Not only no TMT but the ultimate removal of not just all of the telescopes but the removal of all “occupying” entities in Hawaii.

    This whole thing is bundled into the Sovereignty Movement. Good luck with China.

  2. Albee Doh, nice discussion of the facts, I do like the aquifer points in particular, it does not rain or snow too often at the summit, that’s why the telescopes are there (and why we can see them so often).I do like seeing them as it makes me think that Hawaii is doing some good science to the benefit of all mankind.

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