Voice of Stephanie Salazar
The disputed title to the 234 acres of land in Kawa will go to trial on June 22nd, according to the Kau Calendar.
Abel Simiona Lui, seen here outside Kona court on Tuesday, has lived on the land for decades, and his supporters regard him as a konohiki. The county says he does not have title to the land, and wants Lui evicted so a Public Access and Open Space land purchase can be finalized.
Uncle Abel has had numerous high profile run ins with authorities over the land, and for the last year Abel has stood by the side of the highway protesting the county’s effort to buy the land.
Meanwhile, a new blog has been started by the Kawa Ohana detailing Abel’s latest legal battle, at this address: www.moku-o-keawe-ohana.com/kawaa-blog/
The real issue is title. The title to the land is an alloidial title that was never legally conveyed to anybody.
Time to clean up !!I’m for the removal of abel and his followers!
To the ohana family of abel lui and mohala..u have threatned and harrassed many families that go down enjoy and keep clean on many occasions..u have approach these family and even an 80yr old kupuna…with the *f* word..only talk about the county…let’s talk about this…
It would be helpful for someone to explain how title passed to Mr. Lui, even under the laws of the old Kingdom. While I understand why SOMEONE may make a colorable claim under the old laws, I don’t see how Mr’ Lui himself has any valid claim to the land under ANY system, old or new. Can anybody provide any clarification ‘cuz from what I have read it just looks like these people are just misguided with no understanding of how the law works? I fear that this will end badly
Really .Ed oslon had no papers saying any heirs convey it to okuna.they hve no title .clouds .on it.napleons sold out kawa.in the 6o s .when they had no rites to.do that.
Kehau u must be the neplons that sold out in the land in the 1960s.George neplon illegaly sold it .for 4thousand dollars..in 1966.wth joh napleon and papa limu.nepolons sold their rights decades ago.and still come there and shit up the place.uncle Abel is paying for the portable Luas.what is kehau and neplons do.go bck to ur kupuna .they will tell u they sold out.
Well good Kimo two died interstate.under the kaw the heirs can come forward to claim the land.Abel is one of the heirs that’s his tutu.kimo keo.
Got it. Mr. Lui’s claim as an individual is NOT valid under the laws of the State of Hawaii. However, Mr. Lui, based on the statement he made in the interview( said he must consult with other family members concerning decisions regarding its use), appears to not be claiming individual ownership but rather tribal ownership. In other words, it appears he is claiming the right to use the property as an indigenous person. State law denying him the use of this land and the denial of jurisdiction of native Hawaiians over it may violate international law. See Articles 1.1 and 2 of the American Convention on Human Rights. For more see below.
http://cidh.org/countryrep/Indigenous-Lands09/Chap.V-VI.htm
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/hrj/iss14/williams.shtml#Heading312
No Richard.he’s claiming as a heir .under the united state law.heirs can come forward if they have availd claim.Abel tutu is kimoteo Keawe.Thomas okuna never had title.olson has yet to prove title .cos they don’t have one.the case is base on title.they don’t have it.
No u don’t get it Richard.Thomas okuna never had title.so how can mr oslon have one?show the title oslon .
Ok. Thanks. Look forward to finding out the court ruling.
Kawa is NOT for sale. This is NOT the U.S. Stolen goods don’t have receipts. Stolen land doesn’t have legit titles.
Bu..your facts are wrong
Some of you are so totally misguided that I’m compelled to address this whole Abel Lui issue!
Public Access Shoreline Hawaii (PASH) is defined as cultural and religious practices of Native Hawaiians e.g. gathering rights of native plants, fishes, and minerals and religious practices at sites or burial grounds and the State is obligated to protect these rights to the extent feasible. The DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HAWAIIAN PASH RIGHT and the LINEAL DESCENDENT PASH RIGHT is that the LINEAL DESCENDENT IS RECOGNIZED AS AN OWNER OF THE PASH RIGHT AND IT CAN BE CONVEYED IN PERPETUITY (look it up). The reason why Abel doesn’t fit into the Lineal Descendent category is simple because “HE HASN’T PROVEN HIS GENEALOGICAL TIE TO THE LAND HE’S CLAIMING TO HAVE DESCENDED FROM.”
So in closing, what does it matter who of the Lineal Descendents sold their land AND WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THEM? because the simple fact of the matter is, they still have a small interest, unlike, Abel, who’s claim as a descendent to the Kimoteo Keawe of Kau is about as fictional as his imagination….
http://maoliworld.ning.com/forum/topics/legal-notice-for-all-kanaka-maoli-mainly-the-ones-who-can
read the Premeditation article of taking over the Hawaiian Islands over and over and over again and know the REAL History from that point in time……….realize that PIRATES, Conspirators, Racketeers are what our ancestors had to deal with, etc.
Unless you too are a kanaka maoli, you don’t understand the fact that the Hawaiian Government is a Monarchy/ Constitutional Monarchy government vs. a claimed Democratic government turning Socialist and Communist!
get educated and get on the same page………….
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00617FD345B1A738DDDA00894D9405B8385F0D3
That’s funny coming from you? I remember when you first started yor walk, that was before you resorted to cuting and pasting…lol! Got glue!?!